Conversation with Jochrys on June 27, 2005

johnchrysus (11:01:17): Hello Bro..i think we have to talk 1st before you decide to go Surigao..Why? Coz i have talk to bebeth this morning regarding your visit plan...im sorry to tell you that she want to put an end in your marriage. Another thing is she wont sign any papers that from you right here in the Phil during your visit. So i suggest that dont came here anylonger instead arrange her papers or visa going back to Germany and have annulment there coz she is willing to go there to support you in your divorce papers at her own expense including the fare only you want to process is the visa back her to Germnany...Im sorry but thats what bebeth wanted im just relaying it to you. So therefore cancel your trip to the Phil. instead.

johnchrysus (11:04:48): Im telling you this to lessen your expenses with no good result...so again i suggest that let her go to your country to make everything in place. She will provide her own fare and i iring_na_lalaki (11:07:30): hi bro johnchrysus (11:07:49): have talk to her friends in Germany for her stay while your papers is in court. Thats what she suggested and tell to me frankly...im sorry bro...but thats the bottomline when it comes to your relationship with bebeth.

iring_na_lalaki (11:08:01): there is no anullment possible, I'm sorry

johnchrysus (11:08:01): Hello bro! Jochrys and me on Guyam Island in 2003

iring_na_lalaki (11:08:18): and she cannot come back to Germany too

iring_na_lalaki (11:08:27): her visa will run out in August

iring_na_lalaki (11:08:34): afterwards we won't extend it

iring_na_lalaki (11:08:39): unless I would help her

iring_na_lalaki (11:08:55): and I wont

johnchrysus (11:08:57): As what bebeth said to me...yes theres an annulment or divorce.

iring_na_lalaki (11:09:04): no bro, only divorce

iring_na_lalaki (11:09:09): after 1 year

iring_na_lalaki (11:09:20): it's a difference

johnchrysus (11:09:34): Okey divorce.

iring_na_lalaki (11:09:44): I arranged everything for my visit and I cannot simply change all this again

iring_na_lalaki (11:09:52): I will get to Cebu on July 2

iring_na_lalaki (11:10:18): I want to end our marriage too, asap

johnchrysus (11:10:27): Im sorry bro but i have to tell you this to lessen your expenses.

iring_na_lalaki (11:10:31): that means in December I can file the divorce, but not earlier

iring_na_lalaki (11:10:45): it's ok bro, thanks

iring_na_lalaki (11:11:10): if she wants me to process any visa then she needs to talk to me about it

iring_na_lalaki (11:11:24): I will not do anything if she's not talking at least

iring_na_lalaki (11:11:31): I don't think I expect too much

johnchrysus (11:12:00): The best thing to do is let her go to your country.

iring_na_lalaki (11:12:04): why?

iring_na_lalaki (11:12:18): I can only get into trouble

johnchrysus (11:12:37): To support your papers in filing divorce.

iring_na_lalaki (11:12:48): if I help her extending her visa I would get into trouble later

iring_na_lalaki (11:12:57): as its against the law

johnchrysus (11:14:07): I see...but according to her she wont sign anything from you right here in the Phil.

iring_na_lalaki (11:14:20): aha, she can tell me personally

iring_na_lalaki (11:14:25): in a few days

johnchrysus (11:14:54): So your willing to came here despite of what she said to me?

iring_na_lalaki (11:15:00): yes

johnchrysus (11:15:25): Okey...i respect your stand.

iring_na_lalaki (11:15:32): last time I cancelled my flight, but this time cancelling would cost my 400 Euro or more

iring_na_lalaki (11:15:49): that's about 27,000 Php

iring_na_lalaki (11:16:04): so don't want

johnchrysus (11:16:22): Okey...so whats your plan of coming here?

iring_na_lalaki (11:16:39): and I will avoid her coming to Germany if she goes on like this

iring_na_lalaki (11:17:01): ok - I talked to Tata, she wants to fetch me at the airport

johnchrysus (11:17:17): Who's Tata?

iring_na_lalaki (11:17:18): we will get to Surigao on Saturday evening

iring_na_lalaki (11:17:30): Tata = Geraldine

johnchrysus (11:18:32): If thats the case i suggest that it wolud be me will fetch you in Cebu.

iring_na_lalaki (11:18:44): so I will arrive in Surigao on Sunday, early morning

iring_na_lalaki (11:19:03): hmm, Tata already organized everything

johnchrysus (11:19:53): Tata is no longer staying in the house right now.

iring_na_lalaki (11:20:00): yes, I know

iring_na_lalaki (11:20:19): Mama already told me

johnchrysus (11:20:56): If thats the case thats fine with me.

iring_na_lalaki (11:21:22): ok, I heard you are about to go to Cebu on Thursday, bro?

johnchrysus (11:22:56): Yup! It was mama who told me to fetch you in the airport. bro..but if you wanted tata i will no longer go to Cebu this thursday.

iring_na_lalaki (11:23:36): hope it's ok with you, it's only as Tata and I already organized it - so I will meet you in Surigao?

iring_na_lalaki (11:24:03): is your cellphone number still valid btw? I once tried to msg u but no answer

johnchrysus (11:24:35): definitely coz thats weekend.

iring_na_lalaki (11:24:49): ok, super - I'm looking forawrd to meeting you again

iring_na_lalaki (11:24:56):

johnchrysus (11:25:43): I have no load to answer your text. Sorry for that.

iring_na_lalaki (11:25:48): the number I have is +63 919 xxx xxxx

iring_na_lalaki (11:25:54): aha, ok

johnchrysus (11:26:11): Yup! thats my number.

iring_na_lalaki (11:26:26): ok, good

iring_na_lalaki (11:26:53): so you can tell Bbeth, if she really has plans to come here and mayby stay with Lanie & Co., she cannot do without me

iring_na_lalaki (11:27:00): so she really should contact me

iring_na_lalaki (11:27:17): my e-mail addresses, telephone numbers etc are still the same

iring_na_lalaki (11:27:29): so no problem to reach me

iring_na_lalaki (11:27:30):

johnchrysus (11:27:55): Okey il tell her regarding that matter.

iring_na_lalaki (11:27:56): I'm willing to discuss everything

iring_na_lalaki (11:28:18): but she cannot do without me

iring_na_lalaki (11:29:03): btw, regarding my expenses, bro

johnchrysus (11:29:06): I think so bro.

iring_na_lalaki (11:29:17): I had so many that a new trip to the Phils doesn't really matter

johnchrysus (11:30:10): Ah okey....your still welcome to our home..

iring_na_lalaki (11:30:11): over the weekend I made some calculation and got a sum of 650,000 Php (excluding my fares etc), so never mind if I get to Surigao only for having a 2 weeks vacation

iring_na_lalaki (11:30:50): ok, happy to hear this

iring_na_lalaki (11:31:09): you know.... I don't have any problem with you, Mama or the rest of the family at all

iring_na_lalaki (11:31:20): you've been nice to me always

iring_na_lalaki (11:31:34): and I appreciate this a lot

iring_na_lalaki (11:31:57): so I hope we can still stay friends

iring_na_lalaki (11:32:33): God's plans are strange sometimes

johnchrysus (11:32:39): Its not about the money bro..i know you have that only your relationship with bebeth is what im worried about.

iring_na_lalaki (11:32:58): why worried?

johnchrysus (11:34:00): Do you think you can accept it if your purpose here in the Phil be failed?

johnchrysus (11:34:16): I mean its you and bebeth

iring_na_lalaki (11:34:18): you mean if Bbeth doesn't want to sign?

iring_na_lalaki (11:34:44): It's only an option to make things easier

johnchrysus (11:35:20): Yup! if bebeth doesnt want to sign.

iring_na_lalaki (11:35:37): well, it's her decision - I will not be happy about this

iring_na_lalaki (11:35:49): but cannot force her too, I guess

iring_na_lalaki (11:36:03): but I may consider what to do next

iring_na_lalaki (11:36:34): why does she want to come to Siegen?

johnchrysus (11:37:04): Okey...Siegen?

iring_na_lalaki (11:37:13): that's where Lanie is living at

iring_na_lalaki (11:37:25): I presume she wants to go there?

johnchrysus (11:39:13): Okey and i think its easy for you to process your divorce papers coz according to her she wont leave not unless its done.

iring_na_lalaki (11:39:36): well, guess what?

johnchrysus (11:39:42): I dont know the other reason.

iring_na_lalaki (11:39:48): if we are divorced, Bbeth's visa is void

iring_na_lalaki (11:39:54): very simple

iring_na_lalaki (11:40:15): and I can only file the divorce in December

johnchrysus (11:40:15): meaning she can stay there right?

iring_na_lalaki (11:40:18): no

iring_na_lalaki (11:40:23): she will be sent back

iring_na_lalaki (11:40:27): immediately

iring_na_lalaki (11:40:43): her only reason for being allowed to stay in Germany is being married to me

iring_na_lalaki (11:41:01): without marriage, no staying in Germany

johnchrysus (11:41:25): Thats what her plan too...she will only go there to help you then went back right away.

iring_na_lalaki (11:41:31): so doesn't make much sense to come here

iring_na_lalaki (11:41:38): no need

iring_na_lalaki (11:41:47): I don't need her prsence

johnchrysus (11:42:09): okey...i respect your idea bro.

iring_na_lalaki (11:42:11): but ok, we can talk about it

iring_na_lalaki (11:42:20): Bbeth and I - personally

iring_na_lalaki (11:42:21):

iring_na_lalaki (11:42:36): thanks for telling me the latest news bro

iring_na_lalaki (11:42:51): as it's first time I hear about this idea

johnchrysus (11:43:37): Im relaying it to you for you think...its not from me its from her when we talk this morning.

iring_na_lalaki (11:43:52): yes, I know - thank you

iring_na_lalaki (11:44:07): you may forward my opinion about it too, please

johnchrysus (11:44:58): My pleasure and dont worry my treatment to you wont be change bro...

iring_na_lalaki (11:45:06): all I want is a simple divorce in December/January - then she have all the peace of mind she wants to have and never hear from me again

iring_na_lalaki (11:45:26): I'm terribly disappointed about her

johnchrysus (11:45:40): Okey...

iring_na_lalaki (11:45:58): thanks bro, I will still see you as a good friend too

iring_na_lalaki (11:46:10): it's not your fault, about what happened

johnchrysus (11:46:24): Thanks and me either.

iring_na_lalaki (11:46:32): great

iring_na_lalaki (11:46:54): ok, so I can tell Tata she may fetch me in Cebu and we may meet in Surigao then

iring_na_lalaki (11:47:10): of course she needs to know, too

johnchrysus (11:47:53): Okey....if thats what you want.

iring_na_lalaki (11:48:11): ok thanks bro

johnchrysus (11:49:18): I will keep you posted if in case i might come to Cebu for business proposal of my friends there.

iring_na_lalaki (11:49:29): ok, great

johnchrysus (11:50:21): Still thats a tentative coz i have some priorities here in butuan too.

iring_na_lalaki (11:50:23): my # in the Phils will be +63 928 379 9158

iring_na_lalaki (11:50:34): but I may txt you after arriving

johnchrysus (11:50:52): Glad to here it from you.

iring_na_lalaki (11:51:25): sure

johnchrysus (11:52:50): I think i have to go now to prepare myself in playing badminton now...

iring_na_lalaki (11:53:06): ok bro, enjoy

iring_na_lalaki (11:53:34): bye bye and thx again

johnchrysus (11:54:01): Thanks bro...see you soon and God bless!

iring_na_lalaki (11:54:07): God bless you too

iring_na_lalaki (11:54:19): Ingats always and see you in a few days

iring_na_lalaki (11:55:14):

johnchrysus (11:55:15): Likewise! Ingatz and txt me upon your arrival in Cebu.

iring_na_lalaki (11:55:21): ok promised

johnchrysus (11:55:31): Bye!

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